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“Just us” (an evil)
By Dahni
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I could have started this with just one word – Justice. But it seems that is only apropos to those that hold this once sacred power or – “Just us”
I could have titled this post, Incitement, Indictment, Frightment and Defilement. So let the not “just us,” define some terms.
Incitement – In criminal law, incitement is the encouragement of another person(s) to commit a crime or commit crimes.
Are you excited about and encouraging others to incite and commit crimes?
Indictment – A set of written criminal charges issued against a party, where a grand jury, under the guidance of a prosecutor, has found that sufficient evidence exists to justify trying the party for that crime.
You do know about optics right, about perception? You do realize that you can “indict a ham sandwich?” Sol Wachtler, the former chief judge of New York state, coined the term in January 1985. He said district attorneys now have so much influence on grand juries that “by and large” they could get them to “indict a ham sandwich.” He as a Jew, might have preferred to use a pastrami sandwich instead? But in 1993, he was indicted himself, for extortion and he was convicted.
Frightment – to make afraid : TERRIFY A verb, probably first used in 1630. Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary. (1913).
Are you scared, frightened or terrified that our constitutional republic may be on life-support if not flat-lining?
Defilement – (transitive verb), to make unclean or impure, to corrupt the purity or perfection of : DEBASE
Do you perceive our judiciary, department of justice, the FBI and other agencies under the direction and/or influence of the executive branch, have defiled our founding documents: The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution of the United States for America?
Look at the words “war” and “law”. By just changing a few things around, the imagery of a “war” can be similar to that of “law.”
Warfare – military operations between enemies : HOSTILITIES, WAR
also : an activity undertaken by a political unit (such as a nation) to weaken or destroy another.
Lawfare – judiciary operations between enemies: HOSTILITIES, LAW (legal or perceived as legal) also: an activity undertaken by a political unit (such as the DOJ, FBI and political party), to weaken or destroy another, by the courts, or at least by public perception of corruption existing.
So, here is where I am coming from. No doubt most of us by now have heard that the former 45th president, Donald J. Trump, has been indicted in Florida for 37 felony counts, which all start with so-called “classified documents.” You may be sickening glad about that or have been manipulated to believe that somehow this is a good thing?
If you have not read or heard that a former secretary of state, a recent vice president and a vice president now the president, all had classified documents of which they had no right to have, whose fault is that for you not knowing? Former presidents, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama all have classified documents. Why are they not charged? Why is it that just Donald J. Trump is charged?
Others see this as an evil thing. It is similar to what other so-called democracies and third-world countries, regimes and socialist-Marxist powers do, to silence their critics and opponents and put them in jail, whenever possible.
How has the United States come to this and sunk so low that our politics cannot be resolved by the vote of WE the People and not the unelected three-letter-ABC departments of the Executive branch of government, under the guise of law and justice?
Have you ever heard of Lady Justice? Lady Justice (Latin: Iustitia), is an allegorical personification of the moral force in judicial systems. Her attributes are scales (balance), a sword (to protect the law-abiding from the lawless), and she is often seen wearing a blindfold. Lady Justice stands for justice. “Justice is blind,” means the legal system is objective and unbiased.
“Justice is blind,” is mostly used, when talking about a legal court. It refers to the way judges, juries, and law enforcement are supposed to fairly make decisions, based only on the information presented to them, rather than on personal experiences, or who they like most.
“The court of public opinion” has all but seemed to remove “Justice is blind” or the notion that anyone is innocent in a court of law until, the prosecution has proved beyond a reasonable doubt (or some other legally required standard), that the accused is guilty.
Equal justice, defend the law abiding, and blind to favor or force
Almost with 100% certainty, there is virtually no one within the United States and the entire world, that do not believe Donald J. Trump is guilty or he is not. WE are divided and influence the world to be so divided as well. “The court of public opinion,” or so it seems, has already prosecuted, tried and convicted Donald J. Trump, even before this has gone to a trial, which all of the accused are entitled to.
I will give you a link here to a PDF copy of this indictment. I encourage anyone to download it for FREE and read it. Even look up all the U.S. Code Title 18 references it is basing its legal precedents upon. I have done these things for my own satisfaction. Read it for yourself. Do your own research. Make up your own mind.
I am not a lawyer nor do I have a law degree. But I can read, I can think and despite what it may presently feel like, I am still free to express my opinion or common sense if to follow here is, what it is? Having read the entire indictment and all the Title 18 references of the U.S. codes it refers to, all 37 charges (felonies), all begin with the possession of un-entitled — “classified documents.” At least 31 counts relate to the espionage act, there is obstruction of justice and conspiracy with another or others to commit crimes, false statements and willful and unlawful intent to retain documents. These are all pretty serious accusations and are all pretty ominous. But still, it is down to, “classified documents.”
Yes, I do understand that the charges 1-31 refer to the ‘Willful Retention of National Defense Information,’ but what are each of those, if not classified information? Like what classified information:
Top Secret
Secret
Confidential
Another name for this violation of law is also called espionage. WOW this sounds bad, really bad! Yes it does? It sounds like the president had information, which could harm national security and possibly some individuals, involved in national security? Stacking the charges seems really horrible too, especially since if he is convicted of just one, carries the maximum penalty of 10 years in prison, or a maximum 3 years of supervised release, a $250,000.00 fine or both prison time and some fine. Maybe the prosecution hopes to convict on any one of these charges? 31 to 1 are much better odds in favor of conviction, than just one charge. But if possible and if convicted of all 31 charges this would amount to the maximum of 310 years of prison and/or $7,750,000.00 in fines.
Moving on from convictions for the first 31 charges, surely they can get the charge of obstruction of justice to stick? That carries 20 years maximum prison time or 3 years supervised release or $250,000.00 fine or both. Charges 33-35 each has a maximum of 20 years and/or fines of $250,000.00 per conviction. Charges 36 and 37 each has a maximum prison time of 5 years and/or $250,000.00 in fines, if convicted.
And if he is somehow convicted of all 37 charges this would be a maximum of 400 years of prison rime and/or $9,250,000.00 in fines. This is a lot of money to most of us, especially if it stacks up. But to a billionaire, it means not-much-of-nothing. But Donald J. Trump was 76 years old when he appeared in court on Tuesday June 13, 2023, pleaded not guilty and was technically arrested and released. This was the day before his 77th birthday When placed on the calendar, this trial could last from 21-60 days, then what? What if after his trial he has been proven to have committed the crimes in which he has been charged and a jury convicts him and the judge remands him to prison? What if he receives 10 + 20 years (two crimes), or 400 years and/or fines of over nine million dollars? He will most likely die in prison. And he would become the first former president to have ever done so. Maybe this is what those “just us” (an evil), people want? Or maybe they can just sow the seeds that Donald J. Trump is guilty, to taint the public from supporting his 2024 presidential campaign?
And by the way, every charge begins on January 20, 2021. Interesting that they, the “just us” (an evil), wanted this point known as it is at noon on this day, when Trump ceased from being president. But the indictment states this same date for when, what he is not supposed to have was obtained.
Do not be deceived, all 37 charges are all based on “classified documents,” so this is what it comes down to, “classified documents.”
Before this question is answered by the accused and in his defense, I would like to point out that the wording is deceptive and the timing is crucial!
Did the former president have “classified documents” and does the former president still have “classified documents” in his possession, at his residence in Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach, FL?”
From the Indictment –
Introduction
4. “At 12:00 p.m. January 20, 2021 TRUMP ceased to be president.”
Page 2 of 49 Indictment
Introduction (cont.) 4.
Why did this paragraph begin with this sentence? Because whoever wrote this, obviously wanted whomever reads it, to think that the following sentences were because, he was no longer president. It reads like he ceased being president and as he departed, he took information, some of which was classified that he had no right to posses or retain. Is this true?
And why have not others, been charged that were in possession of classified documents and were not even president when they acquired them nor had any right to possess or retain them? Is it because they cooperated with government as opposed to Donald J. Trump that is also accused of obstruction of justice? I have read U.S. Code Title 18 and did not find anything about this being Okeydokey to have classified documents, just as long as you cooperate with the government. Justice does not seem blind, as pertaining to that last question, but biased and “just us” (an evil).
4 (cont.). “As he departed the White House, TRUMP caused scores of boxes, many of which contained classified documents, to be transported to the Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Florida, where he maintained his residence. TRUMP was not authorized to possess or retain those classified documents. ”
Page 2 of 49 Indictment
Introduction (cont.) 4.
Was the entire (4.) based on a true statement? Not according to Donald J. Trump, many of his defenders, and the timeline of his departure from the White House, and where he was when he ceased to be president, at noon, on January 20, 2021.
The 45th president Trump made the decision not to attend the inauguration of the current 46th president at noon, January 20, 2021. Since he was still in office, president Trump left the White House on Marine 1 (helicopter), at 8:21 a.m. on January 20, 2021. He flew to Andrews Airforce Base. Being president, he was still entitled to fly in the president’s plane, instead of some other government jet. At Andrews, president Trump and his belongings were transferred or had already been loaded onto Airforce One. He and his belongings arrived by plane or moving van(s), at his residence at Mar-a-Lago, around 11:00 a.m., but certainly before noon! He was still president at that time and until 12:00 noon, January 20, 2021.
No, he did not stop being president at noon and then take classified documents. What he took was long before and the information arrived at his residence in Florida, before he ceased being president.
So now we come to those “classified documents.” Did he take, did he posses or retain classified documents? Has he any now?
“just us”
As a courtesy, ex-presidents receive intelligence briefings to help former presidents advise the nation’s current leadership. Jimmy Carter (maybe – even though in hospice), Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama, all receive intelligence briefings. These briefings aren’t just a privilege; they’re a time-honored tradition among U.S. leaders so that they can be better prepared to give counsel to the incumbent president for important matters. Whether it’s helping to show the ropes around the presidential role, or give their feedback on an important issue, it’s pretty useful to have folks who were once put in charge in managing one of the world’s most powerful and influential countries give their advice. It is similar to the long honored tradition of former presidents leaving a note for the new president, in the oval office. Donald J. Trump did this as well. All of this is considered “classified.” Each having received and retained this information — top secret, secret, or confidential is “classified” information!
We return now to Intelligence briefings. It is the current president, which can officially approve or deny intelligence briefings access to whomever they see fit. Since the current president elect of 2020 has stated that he doesn’t trust Donald Trump with the information, and has suggested Trump is a security risk in the past, Trump stopped receiving presidential Intel briefings, after the Capitol attack January 6th, 2021, it is believed.
I looked, but I could not find who made this decision to bar president Trump from these security briefings, since January 6, 2021. Could the president elect make that decision? It is clear that the current president has denied these briefings from at least January 20, 2021. I find this authority and denial of briefings to a former president troubling.
Let’s go back to “classified documents.”
Former president Trump ordered his then attorney general to declassify all information pertaining to the Russia investigation, while he was still in office.
Former president Trump and Trump administration officials have claimed that Trump previously declassified the documents, taken with him to Mar-a-Lago, but that the classification markings had not been updated.
“The” White House counsel failed to generate the paperwork to change the classification markings, but that doesn’t mean the information wasn’t declassified,” former Trump defense official Kash Patel told Breitbart in May. Regarding other material that had earlier been removed from Mar-a-Lago. “I was there with President Trump when he said ‘We are declassifying this information.” There have been other reports of “standing orders to declassify.”
Some believe declassifying by a president is automatic. There is a process. Information of intent is to be sent to the department or departments that hold the information sought for to be declassified. Heads of agencies can make formal arguments as to why they believe certain information should not be declassified. But the current president and only while still president, can override any objections and still declassify anything, they deem appropriate. Why does this entire indictment never mention the Presidential Records Act?
https://www.archives.gov/about/laws/presidential-records.html
It should be assumed that no one would intentionally put the country or anyone in harms way and there could be some redaction, reasonably allowed to conceal sources and methods. But after 7 years of investigation into the ‘Russia Hoax’ and countless millions of taxpayer dollars spent on a known fraud, has this not already put our nation in harms way? Are we not less trusted in the world? Have we not also, falsely accused Russia? How does “just us” (an evil), think or believe this helps our security in our country or in the world?
The Presidential Records Act is not a criminal statute. It was never intended to be. The Espionage Act of 1917 was passed under Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow Wilson used it to go after his adversaries and they imprisoned around 2,000 people. This law as well as the Sedition Act, could carry even the death penalty or it has in the past. The former head, whose name is on the building, J. Edgar Hoover used secret files on political adversaries in the country and inside the government. The IRS has been used to target presidential adversaries and opponents. The media has been used to target or just to keep silent, so the populous has no clue of what is going on, inside the offices of our supposed to be, servants of the people.
Attorney General William Barr was given the authority to declassify information about the origins of the Russia probe’s origins. He was given this authority by then president, Donald J. Trump. Trump explicitly granted Barr declassification power – noting it would not automatically extend to another attorney general – and only for use in the review of the Russia investigation. Before using the new authority, Barr should consult with intelligence officials “to the extent he deems it practicable,” Trump wrote in a memo formalizing the matter.
For your information (FYI), some people believe that this investigation is what the FBI was looking for when they raided Mar-a-Logo. It is one thing to have the Mueller’s report darken and the Durham report destroy the hoax, but then, OMG not the entire bogus investigation de-classified!!!!
What if president Trump took the files of this entire investigation, declassified them and under The Presidential Record Act keeps them in his custody, for the maximum 12 years (or sooner). And what if NARA (the National Archives Records Administration) has no right to them or to have asked the FBI to look into this?
What if president Trump has every intention of using these files (should he become president again), to investigate the instigators of this “fake” investigation that any and all involved can be prosecuted, charged, convicted, fined and especially imprisoned. What if his motive is not as retaliation or revenge for him being wrongfully accused, but against those who conspired against the presidency, the executive branch, our republic and the people of the United States for America?
It is stated that none of the statutes cited in the warrant rely on whether the records were classified or not. The search warrant signed by the Florida magistrate judge entails items “illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. § § 793, 2071, or 1519.” This is often called the Espionage Act and deals with defense secrets. Now honestly, “defense secrets” are they not classified? Of course they are! So what if, as the former president contends that what he took from the White House to Mar-a-Lago, was all declassified? As judges, they the those “just us” (an evil), all seem to love to say, it is “moot.
Moot (adjective)
1. Subject to debate; arguable or unsettled.
2. Of no practical importance; irrelevant.
3. Not presenting an open legal question, as a result of the occurrence of some event definitively resolving the issue, or the absence of a genuine case or controversy.
Which item in the list above do you suppose the “just us”(an evil), judges mean, when they say the word “moot?”
In American legal usage in the first half of the 19th century, “moot” developed an additional sense “having no effect, purely academic, abstract”. Now it is primarily only used inside legal contexts. I don’t care, but American usage also retained the original sense “remaining open for debate or consideration,” leaving the meaning of a moot point in conversation, up for grabs. Is it a debatable point, or irrelevant? Whatever “just us” (an evil), want it to mean, I guess?
Let’s just say for the moment, that Trump did declassify all the documents he removed from the White House and that have remained in his possession at Mar-a-Lago and all before the moment his presidency ended at noon, on January 20, 2021.
How has this latest indictment come to this point in time? Even before the FBI investigation and the Grand Jury investigation (both at least months before), why were they involved in investigations? NARA (National Archives and Records Administration), did not have what they thought they should have so, they reported this to the FBI. Perhaps beginning with the Russia Hoax, the Mueller Report finding nothing to charge, impeachment, unlawfully seizing president Trumps tax returns (of which they found nothing), and more and more pending lawsuits, does it at all seem like:
a. someone could actually be as “dirty” as, Donald J. Trump is accused?
b. someone could actually be politically and illegally targeted as, Donald J. Trump seems to be?
I know, perhaps you want to think, believe and have me write the adage, “Where there is smoke, there is fire.” Could not this apply for a. or b. above, why yes, yes it could.
It is interesting to note when another document about bribery was to be released to the public on the exact same day, this indictment took all the air out of anything else, the media could report on or not say a word about it. Whose fault is it if you did not know that son and father and family received millions of dollars illegally, when still just a vice president. Whose fault is it that you do not know that Congress dropped Contempt of Congress against the director of the FBI because, he agreed to meet with them about this document from a trusted source from within the FBI, for over a decade. Do you believe there is nothing to this? Whose fault is it if you believe there is nothing to this or it has been refuted?
Many people are tired of this kind of thing, happening over and over again. We are tired of investigations. We are tired of being lied to or the media and social media not keeping us truly informed. We are tired of the one-sided-ness. We are tired of having our money and resources wasted. We are tired and angry at being dismissed and often targeted by our own government and branded as racists, white supremacists, environment deniers, science deniers, fascists and hate filled terrorist groups. We want solutions to real problems. No, we demand them!
According to the Pew Research center, on June 6, 2023, “29% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents say they trust government just about always or most of the time, compared with 9% of Republicans and Republican-leaners.”
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/06/06/public-trust-in-government-1958-2022/
The FBI is pretty much not trusted by roughly 50 of the population. Why is this the perception? More importantly, for over seven years, former president Donald Trump has been accused of and investigated for something. From my perspective, my perception or just my opinion, I view this as tainted information, piling up on top of fake information, brought on by the bias or ill-fated and erroneous belief of corruption. More to the fact that the former president, Donald J. Trump is despised. He is not a part of the insider club in Washington D.C. He is a billionaire and perhaps he can neither be bribed nor extorted? Perhaps the unelected and seemingly entrenched bureaucrats fear— losing power and un-
entitled privilege?
Maybe the Democrat Party is afraid of his becoming president again and ending a goal of there only being one-party, their party in control of all of, The United States and You and I?
There is in law, a legal precedent and a legal metaphor, for how to handle “tainted” evidence or lack thereof. It is called – “Fruit of the poisonous tree.”
“Fruit of the poisonous tree”
“Fruit of the poisonous tree” is a legal metaphor used to describe evidence that is obtained illegally. The logic of the terminology is that if the source (the “tree”), of the evidence or evidence itself is tainted, then anything gained (the “fruit”), from it is tainted as well.
“Fruit of the poisonous tree” (FOTPT), even has its own ‘Doctrine, which is an extension of the ‘exclusionary rule.’ The exclusionary rule is a legal rule, based on constitutional law, that prevents evidence collected or analyzed in violation of the defendant’s constitutional rights. It is grounded in the fourth amendment –
Fourth Amendment
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
US CONSTITUTION
“Fruit of the poisonous tree” (FOTPT), has four main exceptions to admitting tainted evidence:
1. it was discovered in part as a result of an independent, untainted source
2. it would inevitably have been discovered despite the tainted source
3. the chain of causation between the illegal action and the tainted evidence is too attenuated [weak]
4. the search warrant was not found to be valid based on probable cause, but was executed
by government agents in good faith (called the good-faith exception).
What I am suggesting here is that if this indictment has come from tainted evidence. If all that he has been accused of before and it has been disproved, and if he has indeed declassified all documents taken from the White House, before he ceased from being president, this entire indictment falls apart! There are no charges that do not come from charges of mishandling, and etc. of classified documents. It falls apart! It is evil! Why were photographs used in this indictment? By appearance do they not purposefully want the viewer (now the public), to believe these documents were stored inappropriately and without regard for their content. How were some spilled on the floor? Were all these files found this way or were they intentionally arranged this way? All we see is boxes found on a stage, a storeroom and a bathroom. How do we know what the FBI was looking for, what they found or how it was found? But guess what, it’s all moot if the FBI had no legal warrant or legal right to be there in the first place? It’s all “Fruit of the poisonous tree!”
When so many others that has been accused of far worse, but has never been held accountable for any of it, it is an evil. It is an evil perpetrated on a man, a former president of these United States, and the presidency and the executive branch. It is an evil perpetuated by those of — the executive branch. It is an evil. And it is an evil to every man, woman and child, all of US, WE the People. It is an evil to the Republic of, the United States of America! There is nothing funny or is there a cause to rejoice about this, it is an evil! WE either get this corrected or just turn the lights off as we exit the once was Republic yesterday’s Land of the FREE and the used to be Home of the Brave!
“just us”
1of WE,
I want reparations for justice not pursuing criminals and for pursuing those that are not criminals — innocent and law abiding. Like parents and others that our government views and the media agrees with, anyone they believe is an enemy— I want reparations. I want reparations from all of those that replaced Lady Justice (who was blind), with the fake that peeks out from her her blindfold. Blind Justice my a__!
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